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View Poll Results: Will HTML be obsolete soon?
Will become obsolete as XML/XSLT gets supported by more browsers 0 0%
HTML will still remain useful 6 100.00%
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Old 14-09-2002, 01:01   #1
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Question will html be obsolete soon?

hi dudes, juz wanna chk out how mani ppl tink html's gonna b obsolete pretty soonz?? wif the development of xml n xslt, do u tink tat html wil be replaced??
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Old 14-09-2002, 02:48   #2
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Its not possible for every single site to become XML/XSLT based. You have to understand how these two standards really work before you can decide the application of them in real life standards. In short, "do you really need it?".

Sorry, tired now. I'll dig up more info for you guys next time. Anyway, my vote says "HTML will still be the standard language for the next 5 years".

birdfoot: You must be really working in a harsh environment if you can put up a topic about XML/XSLT.. Don't work too hard okay?
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Old 14-09-2002, 03:01   #3
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heheheh... u 2... take it ez manz... im currently jobless... lol... got a job 4 me?? :P hmmmz... my argument lies on a somewhat different perspective but i agree strongly wif ur vote n argument...

my argument is, its definitely tat xml/xslt can replace html n any site cld b xml n xslt based... however, putting effeciency in2 mind... wld any1 wanna do a simple site in xml/xslt when its so much easier 2 do in html? it'll b dependent on the scope of the project 2 decide whether xml/xslt shld b used... however, html wld stil b the way 2 go if there is no complications when it comes 2 scope... tats my personal view...

juz interested 2 know if any1 else tinks otherwise?? cos i hav ex-colleagues who don share the same sentiments as well...
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Old 14-09-2002, 03:09   #4
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Honestly... I doubt more than 10% of the people here actually dealt with XML. And XSLT? 5%? Oh well, I'll write the analysis some other day. Its good to know about X* and the differences.

Btw, if you didn't realise, there are websites that are built via XML/XSLT -> HTML. There is a module written for Perl for that.
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Old 14-09-2002, 03:12   #5
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yea... i do know they r being used... but its stil depends on whether they r required n not as a popular markup... :P
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Old 15-09-2002, 01:41   #6
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I've not heard about XSLT before, what is that about? Yes, it's approaching quarter to 2am and I'm not exactly in the right frame of mind to dig out white papers for bedtime stories.... 8)
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Old 15-09-2002, 16:43   #7
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XSLT is known as XSL in this link im gonna send... the details are all insed... chk it out!
http://www.w3schools.com/
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Old 15-09-2002, 20:20   #8
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i still believe html will live, actually PDFs were meant to overpower html but anyway it became a popular documentation format instead...
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Gawk, my essay on XML/XSLT is due.. Sigh. Procrastinate one day.. Bor bian.. Tomorrow! :P
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Old 16-09-2002, 10:45   #10
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haha..... good luck. Well, if xml + xsl can replace html soon, there wont be such thing call xhtml..... xml is used quite widely now, but i doubt xsl......
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Defination Of Terms
XML: Extensible Markup Language
XSL: Extensible Stylesheet Language
XSLT: Extensible Stylesheet Language Transformations

What is XML and how does it defer from HTML?
XML is a markup language for documents containing structured information. Unlike HTML, where data and design both co-exist in the same document (yes, I know there's such thing as CSS, but CSS evolved from XML anyway), XML separates data and design. A instance of XML involves the combination of the data (document) and design (CSS) into a document. Having complex design objects separated means designs can be done template based easily. Unfortunately, XML wasn't designed to simply for doing templates, it was meant to create documents where there is a common and systematic method of sorting data.

What is XSL/XSLT?
XSL is simply your CSS style sheet. Its a standard set for the manipulation of data. Designs and styles are stored in an XSL/XSLT format.

So why use XML in the first place? HTML is so much easier to understand.
Imagine you have an ever-growing database of records. Yes, you can use MySQL to store them, but although SQL (Structured Query Language *something like that*) is almost a common interface, its not a standard. Data is just stored, retrieved and each database server uses a different standard of their own. XML on the other hand, structures the data whether into a document, or for storage for later retrieval. Yes, there is PHP and so on, but these are scripting languages to display in HTML.


Hence, XML is used where its suppose to be, and not all over the place. You don't really want to go through the trouble when you're just intending to make use of a header/footer template. HTML is much easier to manipulate.

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Disclaimer: The text above is of my own content (uncopyrighted) and may be inaccurate as it covers mainly my own ideas of X* after half a year of personal research and testing. There may be inaccuracies, but please feel free to point them out.
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Serious huh
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Old 16-09-2002, 18:31   #13
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Hmm? What serious or not serious? Its based on my past knowledge on dealing with XML. Nothing that i'm very sure of since its been a long time, so I can't say I'm definately accurate.
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Old 16-09-2002, 22:21   #14
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heng chai, wats ur profession ar?? developer osp?? :p
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Old 17-09-2002, 00:29   #16
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lol... but not veri related 2 wat u researching now... :P
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Old 17-09-2002, 00:50   #17
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Haha. I used to do programming for another company. The project involved XML/XSL, so I had to read up last time. Quit before I actually started due to a lot of problems with the staff.

Anyway, if a webhosting provider is just stuck at simple server management, he won't be able to go very far. I'm get quite sad if my customer leaves to join another host which I know will not be able to support him/her in a lot of technical stuff such as simple programming or editing of scripts. :p
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Old 17-09-2002, 01:19   #18
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true true... i cldnt agree more!
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I dont think HTML will ever die out....

HTML is the only language THAT IS 100% COMPATIBLE on any browser! (Basic HTML that is)
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