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Old 02-01-2007, 20:22   #1
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Question in DataCenters in Singapore

Hello,

I have a few full racks and have been with 1 single DataCenter for 3 years now and was looking for a few other alternatives to lower risk issues and etc.

What do you guys use when you are looking for full rack co-location in Singapore? Looking for DCs located in the West side of Singapore so travelling is easier for me.

And of course cost wise, which is more competitive?

Thanks for the inputs
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Old 02-01-2007, 21:56   #2
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If you are looking for West side, the best is PacNet datacenter at Science Park
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Old 02-01-2007, 22:25   #3
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Webvisions as well.

But mentioning Qala that you're with now is rather redundant.
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Old 02-01-2007, 23:09   #4
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Pacific Internet in my opinion gives the best.
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Old 03-01-2007, 07:43   #5
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I was looking at PacNet, but their site says that they charge per 25GB transfer block I would finish that up in a day or 2... What are their rates like?
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Old 03-01-2007, 08:37   #6
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That is for Shared Bandwidth. I advice you to get their dedicated bandwidth.
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Old 03-01-2007, 12:41   #7
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Ah I see. Will have to drop them an email on the rates then.
Thanks for the inputs
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Old 03-01-2007, 16:45   #8
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Join in the velocity program of Starhub! And you can choose between Equinix or Webvisions for your servers. IMO.
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Old 04-01-2007, 02:27   #9
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no more shared at PI ?

what i know is no more new shared bandwidth subscriptions avialable already, all new customers must sign up dedicated bw at abt $200 per mbps . rack prices seem cheap though.. a fren of mine recently sign up full rack with 5Mbps cost abt 1.4K/mth .. and i believe all current subscriptions on Shared bw contracts will not be renewed and get invited to go dedicated instead
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Old 04-01-2007, 08:15   #10
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what i know is no more new shared bandwidth subscriptions avialable already, all new customers must sign up dedicated bw at abt $200 per mbps . rack prices seem cheap though.. a fren of mine recently sign up full rack with 5Mbps cost abt 1.4K/mth .. and i believe all current subscriptions on Shared bw contracts will not be renewed and get invited to go dedicated instead
That is the trend in most data center nowadays I think.
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Old 04-01-2007, 13:50   #11
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Then the data center services will probably go into a new trend, from "unguaranteed" shared bandwidth, "guaranteed undifferentiated dedicated bandwidth".

Unless you have special instructions, and perhaps usually at "special" price for dedicated international or specific bandwidth from a internet backbone, you will probably be still connected to their data center core switch for their "multi-homed" bandwidth. In that case, once some data center starts a price war again, co-location bandwidth might face the same fate like consumer bandwidth - higher mix of local bandwidth than international bandwidth. But whether this is good or bad, is subjective to individual's purpose and personnel to assess if it is suitable for their cause.
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Old 04-01-2007, 17:18   #12
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Join in the velocity program of Starhub! And you can choose between Equinix or Webvisions for your servers. IMO.
Well, have sent them 2 mails thru their contact us page for velocity, no replies at all.

Maybe they dun want my business. Haiz.

Anyone any contact that I can go through with?
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Old 04-01-2007, 17:20   #13
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I tried PacNet... and no response as well. Maybe all of them busy with the Earthquake thing. My current DC's account manager also told me that their staff quite tied up at the moment.
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Old 04-01-2007, 21:35   #14
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I can try help you to get my previous PacNet account manager to call you.
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Old 04-01-2007, 22:23   #15
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Do you know their rates?
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Old 07-02-2007, 06:44   #16
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you can try pacnet
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Old 28-08-2007, 01:23   #17
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Do you know their rates?
Have you find any?
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Old 28-08-2007, 01:26   #18
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Join in the velocity program of Starhub! And you can choose between Equinix or Webvisions for your servers. IMO.
Can provide the web links/url?
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Old 02-09-2007, 14:01   #19
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Here you go: http://www.starhub.com/portal/site/S...00464114acRCRD
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For DC with diversified upstreams, PacNet and Qala are good choices. Starhub is fantastic in one or two upstreams and the local peer is still not as good.
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For DC with diversified upstreams, PacNet and Qala are good choices. Starhub is fantastic in one or two upstreams and the local peer is still not as good.
I agree with gtbnetsys as my experiences with QALA IDC during the last 2nd earthquake, the downtime is only half an hour and my clients emails to all round the world is resume.

PacNet have difference link to nearby countries like batam and KL.

For Risk factor, I wish to use QALA IDC as my main hosting service and STIX as my wishful 2nd hosting for routing purpose.

QALA IDC have dual power supply and their air-conditional is one of the best in Singapore.

For the earthquake issue, QALA IDC had proven themself efficiency.

For the power failure issue in Singapore, now they have the dual power sources in each rack.

For technical support, I have been hosting in a few data centre and QALA IDC really have a standby engineer at night and if you visit their data centre at night, there is really a TS there to serve you and not a security guard.

And this is really what I must have if my server have a problem at mid-night which I have experienced.
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Wait, their air-con is the best? I always feel hot in there. To compare QALA and Singtel EXPAN, QALA will be lost for sure
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Wait, their air-con is the best? I always feel hot in there. To compare QALA and Singtel EXPAN, QALA will be lost for sure
QALA had cater sufficient air-con for the racks from top and bottom.

They have 3 type of air-con within the data centre.

I learn the data center air-conditioning design from my friend which work in a USA firm that design the data centre.

If you are looking for cool air, then you should go to shopping centre and not data centre, it is difference air-conditioning design.

QALA IDC do have a rack that use for monitoring the rack temporature only which you can check out with them.

Excuse me, if my words is not sensitive enough for you.
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Well, I don't quite agree with you. Are you sure there is aircon at the top of the rack? I doubt so.

Sorry if my words is confusing. I am not looking for cool air, i am looking at cold air because anyone will know that temperature is important in DC.

Correct me if i am wrong in any way
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Well, I don't quite agree with you. Are you sure there is aircon at the top of the rack? I doubt so.

Sorry if my words is confusing. I am not looking for cool air, i am looking at cold air because anyone will know that temperature is important in DC.

Correct me if i am wrong in any way
There are 2 type of air-con on top, one is the centre air-con and the other is the newly install air-con blowing just on top of the racks somewhere in the center of the DC.

The advantage of this QALA IDC is it have a very high ceiling to allow hot air to raise up and not trap at the rack level during the peak hours. And most of the data centre have a low ceiling somehow.

So far, I don't have any server problem after the QALA IDC newly bulit air-con is completed.

In the past, when I colo in others data centres, I have some funny problems which due to heat.
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Hmmmm...if it is at the center for the DC, then it is not consider blowing on the top of each racks right?

PacNet has high ceiling as well right if I did not remember wrong? I think Equinix will beat all DC if you are comparing ceiling as Equinix has very high ceiling. 2 times higher

Which DC you colo last time? I remember there is heat issues in PacNet previously when their aircon break down

Seems like we are both clearing doubts...hehehe
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Hmmmm...if it is at the center for the DC, then it is not consider blowing on the top of each racks right?

PacNet has high ceiling as well right if I did not remember wrong? I think Equinix will beat all DC if you are comparing ceiling as Equinix has very high ceiling. 2 times higher

Which DC you colo last time? I remember there is heat issues in PacNet previously when their aircon break down

Seems like we are both clearing doubts...hehehe
My rack is right at the back and I do benefit from this air-con. As I mention early on it is the design that works.

I never been to Equinix before and some industry buliding is about 1.5 storey of commercial buliding hight. Is Equinix in JTC buliding?

Normally we don't disclose name when we are talking something negative, this is good business ethic.

And I wish to apologise if anyone found my words which talking bad of company in name, I have no intention to talk bad of anyone or company.
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Maybe it is the location of the rack. I do have a customer of mine, his racks is at the front and it's is not very cold

Ya, it is JTC building.

Ok, I respect your business ethic. This is a open forum so i believe open discussion is fine

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Maybe it is the location of the rack. I do have a customer of mine, his racks is at the front and it's is not very cold

Ya, it is JTC building.

Ok, I respect your business ethic. This is a open forum so i believe open discussion is fine

In EXPAN they have hot zone and cold zone and this is due to their rack layout, it is one of the DC design.

For QALA, the have only hot zone and this is also one of the DC design too.

So, you feel hot in QALA is normal due to their rack layout design.

What is important is QALA really monitor and maintain their rack internal temporature.

I believe that EQ have high ceiling due to they locate at industry buliding.
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Well, I am not a DC designer so I can't comment on that :p

Ya, good to hear that qala is doing their job for you

Maybe

Any DC designer here? Help to clear our doubts
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